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01/11/2007

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Tom D

The iPod (brand and device) is here to stay, and I'm sure Apple will continue to nurture and grow it (in what direction, who knows). At the very least, the $500 price point of the iPhone will keep that new device out of the reach of many consumers, leaving a very large and lucrative market segment of (relatively) lower-end consumers that Apple has already penetrated deeply. Besides the fact that the cost puts the iPhone out of reach for a lot of folks, I think that there will also continue to be a market for "pure" devices (i.e., just a phone, just a digital music player, etc.).

Chris

I would bet that Apple will launch the 6th Gen iPod (with the iPhone iPod interface) in a short period of time...maybe before the Summer. If they chop out the net/phone/communications bits, it would really knock the price down. Take out the camera, remove the screen-shut-off sensor, the microphone (unless people really want it for notes), the speaker, and Apple will have cut the price down significantly.

I'd imagine that a device with that interface and maybe an 80 or 100 GB HD would cost between $399 and $499.

Who wouldn't replace their iPod with that?

I'm definitely going to get an iPhone at some point, but until then, I would find a way to splurge on a true next-gen iPod.

Steve

Tom:

I wholeheartedly agree. The price-point, in my opinion, was set a bit too high. I did write about that back at my blog, and got my brother a "tad" wound up over it.

For me, it comes down to whether we view it as another iPod, this time with more communications features, or whether we view it as a "smart phone" and thus will be competing in the high-end, and that means competing against an established corporate base that has already bought in to the RIM infrastructure.

Chris: As for the cost of the device, a study was just released estimating the cost of manufacture for the iPhone to be half the price. And the highest cost was the cost of the flash memory.

I am not sure if this suggests that they have the ability to move down to meet competitive pressures, or if they figure they have enough demand at the higher price to still make the venture profitable, and justify the lower volume of sales. (thinking I will blog on this too.. not sure yet though... Perhaps a podcast...)

Chris Brady

Steve, I wasn't "wound up over it." I always said the pricepoint was high BUT that people would pay for it. That is all. (BTW, the Chris above is not I.) I agree with someone who said that it would be unlikely that Apple will come out with a new iPod with touchscreen, etc. (iPhone Lite) until the phone is well entrenched. Those 3.5" screens are likely to be hard to come by if the phone does well and Apple will not want to jeopardize the new product.

What that study on the cost did not show is the cost of RD and PR. Remember this was 2.5 years in the making. That being said, Apple always has had a premium mark up so I do not doubt that a good 25-40% is profit.

When all is said and done, I am not planning on getting an iPhone (either Cisco's or Apple's). I need the Enterprise server/Exchange integration, the price is steep, and I don't really want these features combined. (Scott Bourne pointed out that if you watched a movie on a plane, remember the memory limits of 4/8GB, then your battery would be dead when you got off the flight. You cannot swap batteries... Now I know there will be add ons for this and other limitations but I would rather have two devices, as much of an encumbrance as that may be.

Cole Camplese

Now that the luster has worn off I am less ready to drop my $500 on the phone. I believe there will be an iPod forthcoming the will close the gap. I am still in love with some of hte features of the iPhone, but at the moment my business life is too complicated for its feature set. With calendar syncing that doesn't work with Oracle I am dead in the water. My Treo does that well -- wireless from anywhere. What my Treo is terrible at is mail. I think that has more to do with the PSU mail system then my needs, but that is my reality. Sooner or later a device will come along that handles my communication needs ... I really don't care if my phone is an iPod -- I've been happy carrying an iPod and a phone for about 5 years now. When it all comes together right I'll be there.

The thing here that excites me is the potential for further innovation. The iPhone will push other people to step up and that will trigger a nice innovation cycle. That is something that has been missing in this space for a long time. Should be interesting to watch.

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