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02/03/2009

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Mathieu Plourde

Hi Cole,

The role of IT is becoming more and more blurry, as the need for huge centralized systems goes down. The idea of having faculty post their content in a LMS is definitely going away. I now see the role of a LMS has being a thin layer of protected data, either student information of copyright/fair use protected.

This is where the Sakai community is heading. You should have a look at the Sakai 3 proposal and demo:
http://www.sakaiproject.org/portal/site/sakai-home/page/89473b2c-31dd-4261-9823-c31a79e55532

Jim

Cole,

I absolutely love the title of this post, because it gets at a really crucial element of all of this, namely that openness is not necessarily prescriptive, it is something you can back into---which at times is even more effective. For example the work you are doing with PSU Blogs is primarily providing a service where people can control their own work and publish it easily online. The openness is in many ways a result of re-thinking ownership and ease of use, which allows it to quietly enable a whole community of openness that is at the core of changing education but need not be the center of the conversation to start with.

Now, I can see the problems with this approach as well, why isn't the resulting openness the premise through which all of this is discussed and built around. My first response would be the teaching and learning space this provides needs to first work itself out on a far more intimate level than a borader question of security vs. openness, IP, and copyright etc.--and while I personally think this issues are at the heart of all of this---I seldom make that claim with faculty and students who I introduce to UMW Blogs. I see it as a personl relationship with one;s work, ownership, and a kick ass way to publish simply. The conversations about openness eventually happen though, but the difference usually is that they begin to ask me how their work can be found and what the benefits of openness are. Preaching to a faculty member is next to impossible, and while a few read my blog, a majority still think I just have a WordPress fetish. And while this is true to a degree, the real value is that regardless of what they use to publish, the ultimate goal is an open, distributed conversation around ideas---and you can lecture that--it's value must be experienced in some ways. That for me is why blogging in an educational institution is so important, it provides the means through which that experimentation and play can happen without an administrative mandate. An individual will figure it out for themselves, and that is what will ultimately allow all of this to scale beyond any one class, department, or institution.

Cole Camplese

@ Jim I think that one of the core things we are exploring is the notion of personal content management and even though it is personal, it is exposed. I think you reference the notion of that when you say,

I see it as a personl relationship with one;s work, ownership, and a kick ass way to publish simply.

What I am interested is seeing long term is if these personal relationships people are making to their content can be viewed as contributions to a larger set of ideals. What I mean is when does the idea of simple online publishing become part of a collective conversation? How we push the discussion to the next level is a complex question but I am constantly amazed when people start to get that even though it is "their" stuff online that it can be discussed, linked to, reused, mashed, and form a whole much larger than the original contribution. That to me is the essence of what is beginning to happen -- that some folks are seeing their work as part of something bigger ... the Internet is coming of age.

When I start to hear faculty and students start to talk about how they are linking to each other from class to class, semester to semester, and year to year I think we will have taken the next step. At the moment we are just getting to the idea that if I have space online that is mine then the content that goes there is mine. The next step is the exciting one to me.

Mathieu Plourde

Yes, ownership is key. If a person sees making their ideas public an opportunity for others to steal them, especially in academia where research and publication is the bread a butter issue, then they will tend not to share. But the other way to see this is to tell yourself that if someone has taken the time to steal your ideas and to make them their own, then those ideas where probably worth something.

And then you ask yourself if "stealing" is the right way to describe this behavior...

Cole Camplese

@Mathieu Plourde But in the case of course materials I see it as a no brainer to publish in the open. Research in progress is kept behind a wall for good reason (one could argue), but it is a good thing to see content on the teaching side see the light of day! I also like your closing question ... is stealing the right way to describe it?

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