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06/29/2009

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Christopher P. Long

This reminds me of a quotation from Rene Char, French poet, who wrote: "If you destroy, may it be with nuptial tools." It seems that the abandoning of crap of which Glass speaks is just such a destruction with nuptial tools: it is creative destruction that opens new possibilities of community and relation. Good stories do this, and so do good discussions, be they through digital media or in person.

KimW

Hi Cole,
Was excited to read your insights. Ya know I am a bit bashful about commenting/posting.. but his storytelling series just hit the nail on the head for me. I blogged my notes about each under title Making Stories for Television and Radio: http://www.personal.psu.edu/ksw3/blogs/weekly/2009/06/week-of-060109.html


Continuing forwards the question that is stuck in my mind...which relates to teaching and learning. You will recognize where I got the "I kick ass"from.

With my "killer taste" how can I create a story that will make the viewer think "I kick ass?"

Cole Camplese

Hi Kim ... I read your accounts of the series as well. I loved them. Ira is really something in the way he can weave a story out of the ordinary. I have no idea how to get people to think you kick ass -- I struggle with it. One thing is certain for me though, it is important to iterate towards greatness. I've always found that being highly critical of first attempts lead to greater long term outcomes. It is tough to take sometimes, but I firmly believe it is the only way to make things better. Thanks for the comment!

Alan Levine

I love the clip- what a great perspective of the creative process from a jedi master (I admit I am a TAL junkie... I also went to the same high school as Ira, 5 years later tho). It's about being there, cutting out the non essential, but also as you suggest- trying a lot of things and knowing most will not pan out.

This American Life is masterful in its edits, use of music, and storytelling method; all in just audio. And my favorite part? the closing credits where they insert a line as if the "boss" said it.

Matt Meyer

I relate to Ira's quote that "Failure is a big part of success" in a number of ways. Of the gazillion quotes that John Wooden has put forth, his "The team that makes the most mistakes will probably win" quote that I try to keep in mind (I've gone a month w/o a quote from The Wizard!). The simple reasoning lines up with what Ira says here. Wooden felt that mistakes come from doing but so does success. The overall idea is to keep working hard, trying things, honestly evaluating them, learning and moving on.

While it seems a rather simple concept, you should see the look on 10 and 11 year olds' faces when I try to explain this concept to them. They've been told for years by other coaches that "if you make mistakes, it will cost us the game". But you should see how they fly once they learn that it's ok to make mistakes as long as they keep moving and trying.

What Ira doesn't quite get to is possessing the judgment to know when something is 'crap'. With all the content creation going on out there by practically anyone, someone with his judgment simply becomes more invaluable than ever before.

Jamie Oberdick

Matt,

I will never forget my high school baseball coach telling us "I will never get mad at hard-charging mistakes made while hustling, but I will get mad if you don't try to correct them."

Alan, I love TAL and that end bit as well. It's always a good laugh.

I guess what Ira is talking about is so much a part of my career that I don't really think of it as surprising or novel. When I was editor of my college newspaper, our adviser would always say "ask about an article this question 'why should anyone give a shit?' And never, ever forget that your ego should never get into the way of the fact that your own opinion of relevance means little compared to others - learn to think outside yourself and get in the mind of the audience."

That's a tough thing to do and the biggest challenge to the creative process.

Also, this is something from my experience at the Crucial Conversations seminar, another difficult part of this process is speaking up. Especially when there are managers above you on the org chart who have a differing opinion and you feel intimidated.

And the final part goes back to ego. Your idea might have a great skeleton, but one has to have the courage to let it go through the critical eye and under the knife to make it better. I often hear bands say "well, Sue came up with this great bass line, and Artie played this killer riff, and our producer suggested adding piano instead of the sax, and it sounded great." VH-1 Class has a series called classic albums, where they take say Dark Side of the Moon or The Joshua Tree and discuss the creative process behind recording the album. It's a great series and well worth watching.

Rachel

Cole,

The nugget in this post that hit home for me is the idea of throwing out the crap once you figure out it's crap. So often that's really hard to do. I've worked places where something gets started, and then months or years later it's still being perpetuated even though it's just not good enough for talented people to be spending time on. Sometimes there are good reasons to hold on to something crappy, but too often it's just kept up because it's "always" been done. In the heat of the work it can be so hard to step back and decide to let go of something that's just not worth doing.

Thanks for the post. It made me think about things I'm holding on to.

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